#6, Pg. 17 | Boning Up

#6, Pg. 17 | Boning Up

November 4, 2015 in Issue 6
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Caley Tibbittz Collopy 4th Nov 2015, 11:05 PM
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The original draft had Kathryn walking into her office and kicking things, like her desk. But, it was obvious and sort of boring.

So, I did this instead. Visually, I liked all the breathing room after the complicated and detailed Central Park scene. And the new dialogue was fun as hell to write. I "improvised" James' Pringle-dick song as I lettered.

Kathryn's line about Erica being a "stupid little Viking girl" was, of course, inspired by the latest pin-up. And it's funny, because Erica's a good 4 inches taller than Kathryn.

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lirvilas 4th Nov 2015, 11:25 PM

Dang. Kathryn is waaaay too comfortable with impromptu amputations.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 10:26 AM
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One of my sisters and I almost got into a real argument over the question of immortals and pain -- she said immortals would lose their sensitivity to pain over time and feel it less; I insisted pain would remain as painful as ever, but that they'd be able to hide their reaction to it better, with all the practice.

Here, Kathryn's not so much comfortable with it as she is in a state where she feels she deserves it.
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 1:43 PM
Immortal =/= Indestructible, so I figure it's certainly possible that pain would remain painful as ever. It's not like people (even immortal ones) would routinely go to the trouble of practicing having pain inflicted on them as a routine matter of course.

On the other hand, there's people in our world who routinely get all sorts of painful things done to themselves for reasons (religious, spiritual and otherwise) and they seem to handle it disturbingly well. So I guess it is possible to acquire the ability if you seek it out.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 1:55 PM
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My argument with my sister was that higher tolerance of pain doesn't mean you're not feeling it, just tolerating it better.

Kathryn's a trained soldier/knight/Knight as well, so she's used to pain and used to injury. Also, this particular injury is cauterized, which is helping her manage the experience.
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 1:20 AM
To be fair, detective =/= doctor.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 10:28 AM
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The evidence of Kathryn's expression suggests (erroneously) that it might NOT hurt. But Kathryn's not really being logical (or fair) here.
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 1:48 PM
Just engaging in some professional snobbery here. Interesting to note that the arm *hasn't* grown back. Is that because she won't let it or is it because of the loss of the ring? Does that now mean she can be killed now? If so, why didn't our villains do so?

My theory is that in some strange sort of way, they actually all like each other and couldn't imagine the other actually being dead and gone. Case in point, Kathryn was genuinely shocked to see MacKnight was dying (... as she was trying to kill him admittedly).

Beneath all the quipping and insults traded back and forth, there's definitely respect between all the parties in question.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 2:02 PM
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Here's how it works: if Kathryn loses consciousness in an injury or (temporary) death, she will heal fully automatically. In a case where she remains conscious, she can delay healing if she chooses.

...now, clearly, I invented that last part just to make this rewritten page work.

But, it makes a kind of sense in regard to maintaining a secret identity (which even Oberon would know would be helpful to his Knights): delaying healing could help a Knight blend in as a "normal" injured person, and then they could heal when no one else was around. But, if a Knight were shot in the head and "died", recovery would be the priority, to avoid getting buried dead/alive, trapped in concrete, sunk in the ocean in a box, etc. Or, to continue to save the day, should that particular day continue to need saving.

(The ring doesn't help her heal; it's just for wardrobe concerns.)
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 2:18 PM
As for Oberon ... how about Titania? Readers might infer she's dead but here's the thing, no-one's ever actually said anything even along those lines now, have they? For all we actually know (we = readers), she's out there somewhere ...
Stever 5th Nov 2015, 3:33 AM
Haha! "Killed his soul" XD
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 10:29 AM
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Thanks, that was fun to write. Erica adores Robért pretty much immediately, but she loves poking at his stuffiness.:)
sigpig 5th Nov 2015, 8:33 AM
This is a great page, Caley. The last few pages have been action- and image-intense, and everyone needed a breather after that battle.

It looks to me as if Kathryn's "fix" is pain and suffering. I think you mentioned before that she draws all life necessities through her skin, so that leads me to believe that a drug dependency would not work with her. Otherwise, I can see her as an alcoholic or a junkie...
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 10:33 AM
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Thanks, I was proud of the pacing contrast here.

And, this is an interesting observation. Kathryn is very much the penance-seeking self-flagellating Catholic here, which is a sort of addiction to pain. She thinks she's being "present", but the clarity of focusing on her destruction, self and otherwise, is really what she's using to distract herself from the true pain of her existence.

She could use alcohol or drugs instead, but she'd have to take an enormous amount of either, because she'd metabolize them so quickly.
Mangaka 2170 5th Nov 2015, 8:37 AM
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Only a 4" height difference? That would've made Kathryn pretty tall for a woman from her era.
sigpig 5th Nov 2015, 10:18 AM
I would say that the fact she was a noble had much to do with it. Think of it - proper nutrition for generations, better "medicine", and the like all lead to better health and bone growth.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 10:23 AM
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This is a good nit to pick, and Sigpig's onto something with the nobility angle... but keep in mind that Kathryn has those glowing eyes that none of the other immortals have. So, her height isn't just due to her high station; there's something else going on there (ermagerd, sperlers!).

Also worth noting: Mary Queen of Scots was (apparently) 5' 11"(!).
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 1:39 PM
There's been tall people going back at least hundreds if not thousands of years. There's just been statistically less of them in the past. Genetics are a big factor but nutrition also helps. Being nobility helps with that last point. I'm certain you knew all of the above already.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 2:03 PM
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I had a vague notion. I actually had to do some research on this today in response to Sigpig's initial comment -- that's how I stumbled on the Mary Queen of Scots factoid.
Shan 5th Nov 2015, 2:11 PM
5'8" hasn't been hideously super tall for ... well ever. Less common for women though. Famous supposed short person Napoleon was actually average height for his time (5'7") but the confusion comes from his height being reported in the then different French scale (apparently, if I have my facts right) which recorded it as 5'2". That plus the people he was at war with would seize on any possible advantage including making fun of his height.
MadJak91 5th Nov 2015, 4:26 PM
A lot of authors usually use this:
Immortality as constant suffering.
Not always because of the good old "I am tired and I want to die" but because the pain adds up and up and they cannot die.

The only probably worse fate is constant reincarnation when you actually feel death every time.
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 5th Nov 2015, 5:39 PM
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Well, not to be too much of a downer, but most people's lives are like being an immortal -- we survive most injuries, we outlive a swath of friends and loved ones... I've said this to people I know: "We're all immortal until we die."*

So, in that way, I'm able to really empathize with Kathryn's sense of loss and disconnection, and also to her inability to escape her failures. There's a line in the classic Barenaked Ladies song "I Live With It Every Day":

Nature provides for us
A safety net
Whatever we do
We can never forget

...and it's true. And, if you're not suicidal, you're just like Kathryn: immortal (for now), living with all your mistakes and failures. I'm not really writing about true immortality; it's just a metaphor for what it's like for anyone to survive anything.

...your comment didn't really ask a question, and I really didn't answer one. But I've still enjoyed musing on this topic all the same.:)

(*I coined the phrase independently, but apparently not first: goodreads.com/quotes/72314-we-re-all-immortal-until-we-die.)
Bear 14th Nov 2015, 4:49 AM
I'm still (re)reading the first chapter(s). I saw this absultely superb artwork one day, and thought "must read", but didn't get far and there were so many pages already...now there's even more...but what happened to the colour !??? I LOVE colour, there's so much of it, in real life.... B-)
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 11th Dec 2015, 6:32 PM
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Thanks for (re)reading!

I'm a slow colorist, so I've colored only a few pages by myself. The rest were done by colorists I've hired. I don't make enough money at my day job to pay colorists consistently, so it's slow going getting EK colored.

(I had hoped for the Patreon page to solve this, but it hasn't been what I've hoped for this year.)